From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct  3 12:11:37 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:11:37 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CRM + Quickbooks Online
Message-ID: <CANaytcfTyw4XXF62Qwn2SjpOUPyhst+ZHLd8bg9V9o1wwetu6w@mail.gmail.com>

I volunteer for a non-profit (Coastal Trails Coalition) who wants/needs to
marry CRM functionality with
Quickbooks Online data.

As the leading FOSS solutions, I'm thinking CiviCRM or SugarCRM would have
an available integration.  In fact, I know that CiviCRM can now be
integrated with WordPress, which would certainly handle both web presence
and CRM.  As far as specific solutions that couple CiviCRM with Quickbooks,
I find an integrations page at
http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Quickbooks+Integration which
only touches on theory and NOT any specific ability to integrate CiviCRM
and QuickBooks.  SugarCRM has an integration module
http://www.sugarforge.org/content/project-of-the-month/potm-11-2012.php that
I have not had the opportunity to review.

It's been a while since I played with either Sugar or Civi.  In the
interest of time, I'm wondering if anyone in the BostonPHP community has
done this type of integration and can speak from experience on the
availability of options, completeness of the solution, and especially the
best way to actually host if there are better choices than renting your own
VM (ie, is SugarOnDemand a viable option when you start to add custom
integrations?)

Thanks,

Greg Rundlett
founder
eQuality Technology
http://eQuality-Tech.com
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From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Thu Oct  3 12:17:14 2013
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 12:17:14 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CRM + Quickbooks Online
In-Reply-To: <CANaytcfTyw4XXF62Qwn2SjpOUPyhst+ZHLd8bg9V9o1wwetu6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANaytcfTyw4XXF62Qwn2SjpOUPyhst+ZHLd8bg9V9o1wwetu6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e6af312b-da36-44fd-ae89-5a16ca8a9b6a@email.android.com>

I have a number of times worked with this, what specific data are you actually trying to sync? 

some data is easy and other stuff is painful. 

here's a php library that rocks for all intuit stuff
https://github.com/consolibyte/quickbooks-php

I have been using this for deep and simple integrations with all levels of qb. 

hope this helps! 
--
Dan  Horning

American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by  imagination.
dan.horning at planetnoc.com ::  http://www.americandigitalservices.com
1-518-631-3611 :: PO Box 201, Cohoes, NY 12047


-------- Original Message --------
From: "Greg Rundlett (freephile)" <greg at freephile.com>
Sent: Thu Oct 03 12:11:37 EDT 2013
To: Boston PHP Talk <Bostonphptalk at bostonphp.org>, NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CRM + Quickbooks Online

I volunteer for a non-profit (Coastal Trails Coalition) who wants/needs to
marry CRM functionality with
Quickbooks Online data.

As the leading FOSS solutions, I'm thinking CiviCRM or SugarCRM would have
an available integration.  In fact, I know that CiviCRM can now be
integrated with WordPress, which would certainly handle both web presence
and CRM.  As far as specific solutions that couple CiviCRM with Quickbooks,
I find an integrations page at
http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Quickbooks+Integration which
only touches on theory and NOT any specific ability to integrate CiviCRM
and QuickBooks.  SugarCRM has an integration module
http://www.sugarforge.org/content/project-of-the-month/potm-11-2012.php that
I have not had the opportunity to review.

It's been a while since I played with either Sugar or Civi.  In the
interest of time, I'm wondering if anyone in the BostonPHP community has
done this type of integration and can speak from experience on the
availability of options, completeness of the solution, and especially the
best way to actually host if there are better choices than renting your own
VM (ie, is SugarOnDemand a viable option when you start to add custom
integrations?)

Thanks,

Greg Rundlett
founder
eQuality Technology
http://eQuality-Tech.com


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From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct  3 13:36:31 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:36:31 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] CRM + Quickbooks Online
In-Reply-To: <e6af312b-da36-44fd-ae89-5a16ca8a9b6a@email.android.com>
References: <CANaytcfTyw4XXF62Qwn2SjpOUPyhst+ZHLd8bg9V9o1wwetu6w@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6af312b-da36-44fd-ae89-5a16ca8a9b6a@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <CANaytcedKBMtiSm0j510f2GrtUopExaWOe6o2LsObRf9C=FwZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Dan Horning <dan.horning at planetnoc.com>wrote:

> I have a number of times worked with this, what specific data are you
> actually trying to sync?
>
>
Well, all the current customers are in a spreadsheet, and QuickBooks
handles just financial transactions, so initially the goal is to
consolidate, de-dupe and setup QB as the master.  Then it would be an
export or integration to the CRM in a way that would let all volunteers
access or input information on contacts (including non-financial) without
having the spreadsheet maintainer be the bottleneck.  The catch there is
that the CRM has to be as powerful and simple as a spreadsheet for data
sorting, reporting, entry.  I "think" Civi or Sugar could work - but the
challenge for the organization would be to learn how to use the system.
 Otherwise, with a simple spreadsheet UI like DataTables
https://datatables.net/index and the php library you mention, a custom
solution would allow them to work in any manner they choose.


> some data is easy and other stuff is painful.
>
> here's a php library that rocks for all intuit stuff
> https://github.com/consolibyte/quickbooks-php
>
> I have been using this for deep and simple integrations with all levels of
> qb.
>

> hope this helps!
>

That rocks.  Updated 3 hours ago too, looking at their github page.


> --
> Dan Horning
>
> American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
> dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
> 1-518-631-3611 :: PO Box 201, Cohoes, NY 12047
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Greg Rundlett (freephile)" <greg at freephile.com>
> *Sent:* Thu Oct 03 12:11:37 EDT 2013
>
> *To:* Boston PHP Talk <Bostonphptalk at bostonphp.org>, NYPHP Talk <
> talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Subject:* [nycphp-talk] CRM + Quickbooks Online
>
> I volunteer for a non-profit (Coastal Trails Coalition) who wants/needs to
> marry CRM functionality with
> Quickbooks Online data.
>
> As the leading FOSS solutions, I'm thinking CiviCRM or SugarCRM would have
> an available integration.  In fact, I know that CiviCRM can now be
> integrated with WordPress, which would certainly handle both web presence
> and CRM.  As far as specific solutions that couple CiviCRM with Quickbooks,
> I find an integrations page at
> http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/Quickbooks+Integration which
> only touches on theory and NOT any specific ability to integrate CiviCRM
> and QuickBooks.  SugarCRM has an integration module
> http://www.sugarforge.org/content/project-of-the-month/potm-11-2012.php that
> I have not had the opportunity to review.
>
> It's been a while since I played with either Sugar or Civi.  In the
> interest of time, I'm wondering if anyone in the BostonPHP community has
> done this type of integration and can speak from experience on the
> availability of options, completeness of the solution, and especially the
> best way to actually host if there are better choices than renting your own
> VM (ie, is SugarOnDemand a viable option when you start to add custom
> integrations?)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg Rundlett
> founder
> eQuality Technology
> http://eQuality-Tech.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>
>
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From leamhall at gmail.com  Wed Oct  9 07:57:46 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (leam hall)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 07:57:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
Message-ID: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>

Q: What do the numbers 166 and 98 have in common?

A: Both are bad to have on your blood pressure readout.

After trying to get back into C and Python for a while, I need to relax.
PHP is fun and does things I want to do. While I doubt I'll get a full time
gig with PHP, it's still fun.

I have some projects on Github/Sourceforge that I'll probably ask for help
with. Right now I'm trying to "get" OOP and introduce it into my code.

Leam

-- 
Mind on a Mission <http://leamhall.blogspot.com/>
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From ajai at bitblit.net  Wed Oct  9 12:23:35 2013
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:23:35 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:57:46AM -0400, leam hall wrote:

> After trying to get back into C and Python for a while, I need to relax.

Ive had great fun playing with Go over the summer...


-- 
Aj.
FaceBook: facebook.com/ajaikhattri
EnoLand: http://flip.it/Gig0n

From leamhall at gmail.com  Wed Oct  9 12:33:07 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (leam hall)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:33:07 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
Message-ID: <CACv9p5rSnfp_zJaegMGZkyhhAwmOYfrFR+H6XTVe4JbbaHVs+A@mail.gmail.com>

I've looked at Go as well, and if I could get myself going on it I think it
is one of the big up and coming things. However, I'm more focused on the
neat flashy stuff on the web.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:57:46AM -0400, leam hall wrote:
>
> > After trying to get back into C and Python for a while, I need to relax.
>
> Ive had great fun playing with Go over the summer...
>
>
> --
> Aj.
> FaceBook: facebook.com/ajaikhattri
> EnoLand: http://flip.it/Gig0n
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>



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From ajai at bitblit.net  Wed Oct  9 12:34:33 2013
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:34:33 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <CACv9p5rSnfp_zJaegMGZkyhhAwmOYfrFR+H6XTVe4JbbaHVs+A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
	<CACv9p5rSnfp_zJaegMGZkyhhAwmOYfrFR+H6XTVe4JbbaHVs+A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131009163433.GA19232@www.bitblit.net>

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:33:07PM -0400, leam hall wrote:
> I've looked at Go as well, and if I could get myself going on it I think it
> is one of the big up and coming things. However, I'm more focused on the
> neat flashy stuff on the web.

Im been trying to build stuff in Go on Google App Engine. Im looking at
AngularJS for the front-end stuff :-)


-- 
Aj.
FaceBook: facebook.com/ajaikhattri
EnoLand: http://flip.it/Gig0n

From leamhall at gmail.com  Wed Oct  9 12:43:55 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (leam hall)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:43:55 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <20131009163433.GA19232@www.bitblit.net>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
	<CACv9p5rSnfp_zJaegMGZkyhhAwmOYfrFR+H6XTVe4JbbaHVs+A@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009163433.GA19232@www.bitblit.net>
Message-ID: <CACv9p5qf6ontP6=U=XUwFpdhkGXwmvcT_feV47x_e+0yHcVmnQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm loosely looking at the MEAN stack. With PHP I want to do MongoDB and
then add some javascript.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:33:07PM -0400, leam hall wrote:
> > I've looked at Go as well, and if I could get myself going on it I think
> it
> > is one of the big up and coming things. However, I'm more focused on the
> > neat flashy stuff on the web.
>
> Im been trying to build stuff in Go on Google App Engine. Im looking at
> AngularJS for the front-end stuff :-)
>
>
> --
> Aj.
> FaceBook: facebook.com/ajaikhattri
> EnoLand: http://flip.it/Gig0n
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>



-- 
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From codebowl at gmail.com  Wed Oct  9 12:49:12 2013
From: codebowl at gmail.com (Joseph Crawford)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:49:12 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <20131009163433.GA19232@www.bitblit.net>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
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	<20131009163433.GA19232@www.bitblit.net>
Message-ID: <89142FB3-9B51-4190-A46E-4C13B2B9ACE5@gmail.com>

Backbone.js is amazing, you should check that out as well if you haven't already

> Im been trying to build stuff in Go on Google App Engine. Im looking at
> AngularJS for the front-end stuff :-)

From ajai at bitblit.net  Wed Oct  9 14:22:02 2013
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:22:02 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <89142FB3-9B51-4190-A46E-4C13B2B9ACE5@gmail.com>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
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	<89142FB3-9B51-4190-A46E-4C13B2B9ACE5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131009182202.GA19867@www.bitblit.net>

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:49:12PM -0400, Joseph Crawford wrote:
> Backbone.js is amazing, you should check that out as well if you haven't already

I think the general consensus is that AngularJS is better...


-- 
Aj.
FaceBook: facebook.com/ajaikhattri
EnoLand: http://flip.it/Gig0n

From justin at justinhileman.info  Wed Oct  9 19:38:48 2013
From: justin at justinhileman.info (justin)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 19:38:48 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
In-Reply-To: <20131009182202.GA19867@www.bitblit.net>
References: <CACv9p5rXVF8URAUDxA9=eOmomJTK02eGLc+55S_MoKO1v6pNhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<20131009162335.GF28330@www.bitblit.net>
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On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:49:12PM -0400, Joseph Crawford wrote:
> > Backbone.js is amazing, you should check that out as well if you haven't
> already
>
> I think the general consensus is that AngularJS is better...
>


"Also amazing" or "Better for some people". They're very different, and
there are reasons to like (or dislike) both.

--justin
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From zippy1981 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  9 21:49:51 2013
From: zippy1981 at gmail.com (Justin Dearing)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:49:51 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Downloading Zend Studio 8
Message-ID: <CABsCM1MRJG-V9iZP+LZfy-vZbL2u2iGHHy2tr_cp6s+LO77vhA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

A long time ago I passed my ZCE, and as a reward I got a license to Zend
Studio. Fast forward to today and I decided to try it out, and more
importantly make a chocolatey package for it. Apparently I am only eligible
for version 8 of Zend Studio. Zend.com only lets me download 10.0 and 9.0
of Zend Studio.

How do I get version 8.0?

TIA,

Justin Dearing
ZCE PHP 5
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From sequethin at gmail.com  Wed Oct  9 22:09:50 2013
From: sequethin at gmail.com (Michael Hernandez)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:09:50 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Downloading Zend Studio 8
In-Reply-To: <CABsCM1MRJG-V9iZP+LZfy-vZbL2u2iGHHy2tr_cp6s+LO77vhA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABsCM1MRJG-V9iZP+LZfy-vZbL2u2iGHHy2tr_cp6s+LO77vhA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1579EB7E-742C-4C9C-8C94-6AEBA3F158D7@gmail.com>


> On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Justin Dearing <zippy1981 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> A long time ago I passed my ZCE, and as a reward I got a license to Zend Studio. Fast forward to today and I decided to try it out, and more importantly make a chocolatey package for it. Apparently I am only eligible for version 8 of Zend Studio. Zend.com only lets me download 10.0 and 9.0 of Zend Studio. 
> 
> How do I get version 8.0?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Justin Dearing
> ZCE PHP 5
> ________________________________

Tbh it's not worth the trouble. Especially not worth being 2 versions behind. Check the zend forums for the best help on that. I tried it after I passed my zce and went back to vim within an hour. I still use zend server as a quick turn-key stack every now and then, though :)

Good luck!

--Mike H

From krook at us.ibm.com  Thu Oct 10 01:29:57 2013
From: krook at us.ibm.com (Daniel Krook)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:29:57 -0700
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Downloading Zend Studio 8
In-Reply-To: <1579EB7E-742C-4C9C-8C94-6AEBA3F158D7@gmail.com>
References: <CABsCM1MRJG-V9iZP+LZfy-vZbL2u2iGHHy2tr_cp6s+LO77vhA@mail.gmail.com>
	<1579EB7E-742C-4C9C-8C94-6AEBA3F158D7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF0FC1CC3E.CF0B4F88-ON85257C00.001D6860-88257C00.001E3448@us.ibm.com>

Hi Justin and Mike,


talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org wrote on 10/09/2013 07:09:50 PM:

> From: Michael Hernandez <sequethin at gmail.com>
> To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Cc: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> Date: 10/09/2013 07:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Downloading Zend Studio 8
> Sent by: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
> 
> 
> > On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Justin Dearing <zippy1981 at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > A long time ago I passed my ZCE, and as a reward I got a license 
> to Zend Studio. Fast forward to today and I decided to try it out, 
> and more importantly make a chocolatey package for it. Apparently I 
> am only eligible for version 8 of Zend Studio. Zend.com only lets me
> download 10.0 and 9.0 of Zend Studio. 
> > 
> > How do I get version 8.0?
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
> > Justin Dearing
> > ZCE PHP 5
> > ________________________________
> 
> Tbh it's not worth the trouble. Especially not worth being 2 
> versions behind. Check the zend forums for the best help on that. I 
> tried it after I passed my zce and went back to vim within an hour. 
> I still use zend server as a quick turn-key stack every now and 
> then, though :)
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> --Mike H
> _______________________________________________



Mike, you mean 2 and a half versions behind :)

Zend announced 10.5 here at ZendCon this week: 
http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/studio-10-5-early-access


Justin,

Have you hit the "Chat with sales" or "Forums" link on the Studio page? 
http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/

Maybe they can get you a link to 8 or a later version.




Thanks,


Daniel Krook
Software Engineer, Master Inventor, Advanced Cloud Solutions, GTS
Senior Certified IT Specialist (IBM L3 Thought Leader, The Open Group L3 
Distinguished)

  
http://krook.info/ 


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From ajai at bitblit.net  Thu Oct 10 11:43:11 2013
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:43:11 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
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On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:43:55PM -0400, leam hall wrote:

> I'm loosely looking at the MEAN stack. With PHP I want to do MongoDB and
> then add some javascript.

Ive just spent over a year working with the Lithium PHP framework which
has good support for MongoDB.


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From ajai at bitblit.net  Thu Oct 10 11:49:05 2013
From: ajai at bitblit.net (Ajai Khattri)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:49:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Back into the fray
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On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:38:48PM -0400, justin wrote:
> 
> "Also amazing" or "Better for some people". They're very different, and
> there are reasons to like (or dislike) both.

Some links discussing:
http://sporto.github.io/blog/2013/04/12/comparison-angular-backbone-can-ember/
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6548826/angular-js-vs-backbone-js


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From codebowl at gmail.com  Thu Oct 10 16:59:04 2013
From: codebowl at gmail.com (Joseph Crawford)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:59:04 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Downloading Zend Studio 8
In-Reply-To: <OF0FC1CC3E.CF0B4F88-ON85257C00.001D6860-88257C00.001E3448@us.ibm.com>
References: <CABsCM1MRJG-V9iZP+LZfy-vZbL2u2iGHHy2tr_cp6s+LO77vhA@mail.gmail.com>
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Ive used Zend Studio for years, recently made the switch to phpstorm and have been loving it.  

I would try out that IDE if you haven't yet boosts productivity a lot.

Thanks,
Joseph Crawford

On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:29 AM, Daniel Krook <krook at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Hi Justin and Mike, 
> 
> 
> talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org wrote on 10/09/2013 07:09:50 PM:
> 
> > From: Michael Hernandez <sequethin at gmail.com> 
> > To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org> 
> > Cc: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org> 
> > Date: 10/09/2013 07:10 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Downloading Zend Studio 8 
> > Sent by: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Justin Dearing <zippy1981 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey all,
> > > 
> > > A long time ago I passed my ZCE, and as a reward I got a license 
> > to Zend Studio. Fast forward to today and I decided to try it out, 
> > and more importantly make a chocolatey package for it. Apparently I 
> > am only eligible for version 8 of Zend Studio. Zend.com only lets me
> > download 10.0 and 9.0 of Zend Studio. 
> > > 
> > > How do I get version 8.0?
> > > 
> > > TIA,
> > > 
> > > Justin Dearing
> > > ZCE PHP 5
> > > ________________________________
> > 
> > Tbh it's not worth the trouble. Especially not worth being 2 
> > versions behind. Check the zend forums for the best help on that. I 
> > tried it after I passed my zce and went back to vim within an hour. 
> > I still use zend server as a quick turn-key stack every now and 
> > then, though :)
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > 
> > --Mike H
> > _______________________________________________ 
> 
> 
> 
> Mike, you mean 2 and a half versions behind :) 
> 
> Zend announced 10.5 here at ZendCon this week: http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/studio-10-5-early-access 
> 
> 
> Justin, 
> 
> Have you hit the "Chat with sales" or "Forums" link on the Studio page? http://www.zend.com/en/products/studio/ 
> 
> Maybe they can get you a link to 8 or a later version. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 
> Daniel Krook
> Software Engineer, Master Inventor, Advanced Cloud Solutions, GTS
> Senior Certified IT Specialist (IBM L3 Thought Leader, The Open Group L3 Distinguished)
> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> <Mail Attachment.jpeg> 
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From leamhall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 11 07:33:05 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 07:33:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Functions instantiating from Classes
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On 04/02/2013 10:18 PM, Gary A Mort wrote:
> On 2/25/2013 8:46 AM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com
>> <mailto:leamhall at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     OOP Newbie question as I convert a crufty program to OOP
>>
>>     Class Person sets up various properties of a person. Classes B, C,
>>     and D extend A in various ways for different roles people do.
>>
>>     What I ran into last night was trying to use a function outside of
>>     the classes to instantiate objects. For example:
>>
>>     Function Z instantiates 3 objects of class B, one each object of
>>     class C.
>>
>>     Function Y instantiates one instance of class D and then runs
>>     Function Z 3 times, for a total of 16 objects.
>>
>>     Function X creates one object of Class D and then calls Function 7
>>     3 times.
>>
>>     What I don't know, and couldn't clearly explain on ##php last
>>     night, is how to have Functions X, Y, and Z be able to create
>>     objects from classes B, C, and D.
>>
>>     Any help, or good pointers to tutorials? Should I even be using
>>     functions? The goal is to create groups of objects based off group
>>     membership guidelines.
>>
>>     If you're well and truly bored, the full code is at:
>>
>>     https://github.com/LeamHall/LHTraveller_Mercenary_Generator
>>
>>
>> Not so bored, so only took a quick look.
>>
>> It seems like you're calling functions to generate objects but not
>> returning those objects or storing them in a global array anywhere?
>>
>> You are absolutely right to be using objects for this stuff.
>
>
> I'm not so sure, he is "storing" the data for the purpose.  The purpose
> is to create a "group" of "people" based on certain parameters - and
> then display them to the end user.
>
> So each "generate" function outputs it's object data to the screen -
> thus "Storing" the data in the output.
>
> On the downside, one gotcha with this method of generation is that the
> web page will "generate" a new set of data every time it is loaded - so
> if the end user wants to print the data on the screen depending on the
> browser, it may completely resubmit the request so what is on the screen
> would not be what is printed out.
>
>
> I think you may want to also throw in some migration to using models and
> views as well - so for example
> generate_person: today it creates the stats and displays it
>
> Model/View
> generate_person: creates a person and returns the object
> print_person: displays the person data
>
> generate_squad: creates a squad object which contains an array of person
> objects
> print_squad: displays the squad data
>
>
> Also, as I'm assuming that this is being done as an exercise in learning
> and fun, you should not use global functions like generate_person,
> generate_squad, etc.
>
> You should either be namespacing your functions so as to get them out of
> the global namespace, ie:
> traveller/generate/person
> traveller/generate/squad
>
> Or you should look into the Factory pattern
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_method_pattern for this sort of thing.
>
> And of course, most important, have fun, since that's what PHP
> programming is all about.
>
> :-)

Fun is the name of the game! It is also a great motivator.  :)

Now that I'm back to PHP, am looking at the Factory design pattern. 
Fortunately I have a copy of William Sanders' "Learning PHP Design 
Patterns". Never let it be said that I was short a book!

MVC is a later topic, though important. I need to be able to create web 
pages and to throw stuff into a database. So the implementations will be 
different but based off the same classes.

I am going back to the absolute basics and trying to make sure I 
understand each part. There is an abstract class "Being" that sets up 
the required properties but does not do anything. There is a helper 
class for dice rolls. There is a test_Dice.php file to test the dice rolls.

Two questions from this morning. First, is there a better way to test a 
(helper) class than what I did with test_Dice.php? I don't know PHP 
testing hardly at all, but want to add that skill.

Also, Dice.php should actually go into another project. If you're 
working on a project on GitHub that needs a file from another project, 
what's the best way to integrate it so that any changes get implemented?

Todays work:

https://github.com/makhidkarun/Traveller_Mercenary_Generator/blob/master/Dice.php

https://github.com/makhidkarun/Traveller_Mercenary_Generator/blob/master/test_Dice.php

Please keep in mind that I'm an OOP n00b, so there are probably lots of 
ways to improve. However, improvement is the goal. I prefer a suggestion 
or critical comment to a solution.

Thanks!

Leam

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From leamhall at gmail.com  Thu Oct 17 07:13:46 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (leam hall)
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 07:13:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] I object!
Message-ID: <CACv9p5rG6kO22JGDiLT2HhZxtPYs+obY9=u61yz06KEGwVG71w@mail.gmail.com>

Well, objects have been getting the better of me for a while. This past
weekend I've gotten back into wrangling with OOP. As of last night I
figured out an __autoload issue and the folks on #phpmentoring and ##php
have been giving me some good guidance. I am also still referencing an
NYPHP e-mail thread from 25 Feb 13; on that got me started on the OOP
progress.

Fun times!

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From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct 24 08:38:05 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:38:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.net is blacklisted by Google Malware detection
Message-ID: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the diagnostic.

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=php.net

Which appears to imply that comments posted in the manual are linking to
sites which contain malware.  That's bad.

And people talking about it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/24/php_site_malware_warning_flap/
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Php-net-Flagged-as-Malicious-Website-393920.shtml

But I haven't checked out the dev channel on IRC so I don't have any update
from site admins

Anyone know the scoop about when the warning might come down; or more
importantly what the problem is with the comment/web system?

Greg Rundlett
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From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct 24 08:57:15 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:57:15 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.net is blacklisted by Google Malware detection
In-Reply-To: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANaytcd7-tPQwo+D46mkUAgS-BVfdx7iZOmRjkxgsjyMcTZPDw@mail.gmail.com>

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6604156 uncovers the problem...
 Somehow some obfuscated javascrip was injected into a userprefs.js file
which in turn loads an iframe that loads the malware.

Greg Rundlett


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
greg at freephile.com> wrote:

> Here is the diagnostic.
>
> http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=php.net
>
> Which appears to imply that comments posted in the manual are linking to
> sites which contain malware.  That's bad.
>
> And people talking about it:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/24/php_site_malware_warning_flap/
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Php-net-Flagged-as-Malicious-Website-393920.shtml
>
> But I haven't checked out the dev channel on IRC so I don't have any
> update from site admins
>
> Anyone know the scoop about when the warning might come down; or more
> importantly what the problem is with the comment/web system?
>
> Greg Rundlett
>
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From leamhall at gmail.com  Thu Oct 24 08:58:46 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (leam hall)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:58:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.net is blacklisted by Google Malware detection
In-Reply-To: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
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Firefox will let you actually go to the page, if you click around a bit.

However, I'm not fond of the comment on php.net anyway. I'd rather folks
put in tickets to grow the actual documentation vice putting a bunch of
confusing comments in the bottom.






On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
greg at freephile.com> wrote:

> Here is the diagnostic.
>
> http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=php.net
>
> Which appears to imply that comments posted in the manual are linking to
> sites which contain malware.  That's bad.
>
> And people talking about it:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/24/php_site_malware_warning_flap/
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Php-net-Flagged-as-Malicious-Website-393920.shtml
>
> But I haven't checked out the dev channel on IRC so I don't have any
> update from site admins
>
> Anyone know the scoop about when the warning might come down; or more
> importantly what the problem is with the comment/web system?
>
> Greg Rundlett
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>



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From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct 24 09:09:05 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:09:05 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.net is blacklisted by Google Malware detection
In-Reply-To: <CACv9p5rTa7NP2icJmDQK9j5+gK4hNbu8UDV4N5w4Te4xMAGA9g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
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There seems to be some confusion on the part of php.net devs about why the
site is being flagged.  But, they've removed some code in 5 files
https://github.com/php/web-php/commit/8e87088c3f51b594dc7d7ed71115d215a7acf78b

And requested a review by Google
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/webmasters/puLmvjtK0m8%5B1-25-false%5D

Some obfuscated javascript code may have been included in actual site code
(not user generated content).

Greg Rundlett


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:58 AM, leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Firefox will let you actually go to the page, if you click around a bit.
>
> However, I'm not fond of the comment on php.net anyway. I'd rather folks
> put in tickets to grow the actual documentation vice putting a bunch of
> confusing comments in the bottom.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
> greg at freephile.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is the diagnostic.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=php.net
>>
>> Which appears to imply that comments posted in the manual are linking to
>> sites which contain malware.  That's bad.
>>
>> And people talking about it:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/24/php_site_malware_warning_flap/
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Php-net-Flagged-as-Malicious-Website-393920.shtml
>>
>> But I haven't checked out the dev channel on IRC so I don't have any
>> update from site admins
>>
>> Anyone know the scoop about when the warning might come down; or more
>> importantly what the problem is with the comment/web system?
>>
>> Greg Rundlett
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct 24 09:23:57 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:23:57 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.net is blacklisted by Google Malware detection
In-Reply-To: <CANaytcdk9yAixETURgxKqaukukKO6T5PGnbJ8R6xargZ7MW4nA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANaytceK0eHZsrWqOfTGASPxXtagquq8SB9VoExphM=rK+L=rg@mail.gmail.com>

http://devdocs.io/ can be used as an alternative until the manual is back
online

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From greg at freephile.com  Thu Oct 24 12:45:15 2013
From: greg at freephile.com (Greg Rundlett (freephile))
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:45:15 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] php.net is blacklisted by Google Malware detection
In-Reply-To: <CANaytceK0eHZsrWqOfTGASPxXtagquq8SB9VoExphM=rK+L=rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANaytccAcuffTmrsa2mrW579oLBLWO+9a6wzPhWbfMCPfAg=tw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CACv9p5rTa7NP2icJmDQK9j5+gK4hNbu8UDV4N5w4Te4xMAGA9g@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
greg at freephile.com> wrote:

> http://devdocs.io/ can be used as an alternative until the manual is back
> online
>
> /me having a conversation with myself

And the site is back http://php.net/

Greg Rundlett
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From leamhall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 25 06:31:06 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:31:06 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
Message-ID: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>

Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on php.net? Even 
before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the mailing lists.

Thanks!

Leam

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http://31challenge.net/insight

From danielc at analysisandsolutions.com  Fri Oct 25 09:58:55 2013
From: danielc at analysisandsolutions.com (Daniel Convissor)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:58:55 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>

Hi Leam:

> Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on php.net? Even
> before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the mailing
> lists.

What happens?

It's always worked fine for me:
1) Go to http://us1.php.net/mailing-lists.php
2) Click the radio button next to the list you want to subscribe to
3) Enter your email address at the bottom
4) Click the subscribe button
5) Reply to the confirmation email.  Maybe this is where you're having
problems.  Maybe these emails are getting snagged as spam.

That's all there is to it.

--Dan

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From leamhall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 25 17:07:46 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:07:46 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>
	<20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>

On 10/25/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Convissor wrote:
> Hi Leam:
>
>> Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on php.net? Even
>> before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the mailing
>> lists.
>
> What happens?
>
> It's always worked fine for me:
> 1) Go to http://us1.php.net/mailing-lists.php
> 2) Click the radio button next to the list you want to subscribe to
> 3) Enter your email address at the bottom
> 4) Click the subscribe button
> 5) Reply to the confirmation email.  Maybe this is where you're having
> problems.  Maybe these emails are getting snagged as spam.
>
> That's all there is to it.
>
> --Dan
>


Hey Dan!

I check my Gmail spam filter pretty often and the confirmation e-mails 
haven't shown up. They aren't even in the trash. I had tried to sign up 
before php.net got black-listed, to no avail.

Happy Friday!

Leam

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From rstoll at tutteli.ch  Fri Oct 25 17:17:20 2013
From: rstoll at tutteli.ch (Robert Stoll)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 23:17:20 +0200
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>	<20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
	<526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001ced1c7$979207b0$c6b61710$@tutteli.ch>

Heya, 

Maybe it helps if you first unsubscribe from the list by sending an email
to:
<internals-unsubscribe at lists.php.net>

And then subscribe again:
<internals-help at lists.php.net>

Cheers,
Robert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
> On Behalf Of Leam Hall
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:08 PM
> To: NYPHP Talk
> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
> 
> On 10/25/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Convissor wrote:
> > Hi Leam:
> >
> >> Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on php.net? Even
> >> before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the mailing
> >> lists.
> >
> > What happens?
> >
> > It's always worked fine for me:
> > 1) Go to http://us1.php.net/mailing-lists.php
> > 2) Click the radio button next to the list you want to subscribe to
> > 3) Enter your email address at the bottom
> > 4) Click the subscribe button
> > 5) Reply to the confirmation email.  Maybe this is where you're having
> > problems.  Maybe these emails are getting snagged as spam.
> >
> > That's all there is to it.
> >
> > --Dan
> >
> 
> 
> Hey Dan!
> 
> I check my Gmail spam filter pretty often and the confirmation e-mails
> haven't shown up. They aren't even in the trash. I had tried to sign up
before
> php.net got black-listed, to no avail.
> 
> Happy Friday!
> 
> Leam
> 
> --
> http://31challenge.net
> http://31challenge.net/insight
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
> 
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation


From leamhall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 25 17:42:32 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:42:32 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <000001ced1c7$979207b0$c6b61710$@tutteli.ch>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>	<20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
	<526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>
	<000001ced1c7$979207b0$c6b61710$@tutteli.ch>
Message-ID: <526AE5C8.2080607@gmail.com>

Okay, this is sad. I have been doing e-mail lists since before they had 
web interfaces...

/me hangs his head in shame


On 10/25/2013 05:17 PM, Robert Stoll wrote:
> Heya,
>
> Maybe it helps if you first unsubscribe from the list by sending an email
> to:
> <internals-unsubscribe at lists.php.net>
>
> And then subscribe again:
> <internals-help at lists.php.net>
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
>> On Behalf Of Leam Hall
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:08 PM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
>>
>> On 10/25/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Convissor wrote:
>>> Hi Leam:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on php.net? Even
>>>> before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the mailing
>>>> lists.
>>>
>>> What happens?
>>>
>>> It's always worked fine for me:
>>> 1) Go to http://us1.php.net/mailing-lists.php
>>> 2) Click the radio button next to the list you want to subscribe to
>>> 3) Enter your email address at the bottom
>>> 4) Click the subscribe button
>>> 5) Reply to the confirmation email.  Maybe this is where you're having
>>> problems.  Maybe these emails are getting snagged as spam.
>>>
>>> That's all there is to it.
>>>
>>> --Dan
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Dan!
>>
>> I check my Gmail spam filter pretty often and the confirmation e-mails
>> haven't shown up. They aren't even in the trash. I had tried to sign up
> before
>> php.net got black-listed, to no avail.
>>
>> Happy Friday!
>>
>> Leam
>>
>> --
>> http://31challenge.net
>> http://31challenge.net/insight
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>

-- 
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http://31challenge.net/insight

From dan.horning at planetnoc.com  Fri Oct 25 17:48:47 2013
From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Dan Horning)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:48:47 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <526AE5C8.2080607@gmail.com>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>
	<20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
	<526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>
	<000001ced1c7$979207b0$c6b61710$@tutteli.ch>
	<526AE5C8.2080607@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d063f3fa-bd8e-4f29-90e3-02b9987dc73f@email.android.com>

same here. remember trying to request archives? 
--
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1-518-631-3611 :: PO Box 201, Cohoes, NY 12047


-------- Original Message --------
From: Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com>
Sent: Fri Oct 25 17:42:32 EDT 2013
To: NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?

Okay, this is sad. I have been doing e-mail lists since before they had 
web interfaces...

/me hangs his head in shame


On 10/25/2013 05:17 PM, Robert Stoll wrote:
> Heya,
>
> Maybe it helps if you first unsubscribe from the list by sending an email
> to:
> <internals-unsubscribe at lists.php.net>
>
> And then subscribe again:
> <internals-help at lists.php.net>
>
> Cheers,
> Robert
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
>> On Behalf Of Leam Hall
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:08 PM
>> To: NYPHP Talk
>> Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
>>
>> On 10/25/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Convissor wrote:
>>> Hi Leam:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on php.net? Even
>>>> before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the mailing
>>>> lists.
>>>
>>> What happens?
>>>
>>> It's always worked fine for me:
>>> 1) Go to http://us1.php.net/mailing-lists.php
>>> 2) Click the radio button next to the list you want to subscribe to
>>> 3) Enter your email address at the bottom
>>> 4) Click the subscribe button
>>> 5) Reply to the confirmation email.  Maybe this is where you're having
>>> problems.  Maybe these emails are getting snagged as spam.
>>>
>>> That's all there is to it.
>>>
>>> --Dan
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Dan!
>>
>> I check my Gmail spam filter pretty often and the confirmation e-mails
>> haven't shown up. They aren't even in the trash. I had tried to sign up
> before
>> php.net got black-listed, to no avail.
>>
>> Happy Friday!
>>
>> Leam
>>
>> --
>> http://31challenge.net
>> http://31challenge.net/insight
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>>
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>

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From leamhall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 25 18:07:31 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 18:07:31 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <d063f3fa-bd8e-4f29-90e3-02b9987dc73f@email.android.com>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>
	<20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
	<526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>
	<000001ced1c7$979207b0$c6b61710$@tutteli.ch>
	<526AE5C8.2080607@gmail.com>
	<d063f3fa-bd8e-4f29-90e3-02b9987dc73f@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <526AEBA3.3000905@gmail.com>

Dan,

I never figured that one out. Left the country for a bit and came back; 
*blam* BBS's were out and everything was "internet this" and "web that".

On 10/25/2013 05:48 PM, Dan Horning wrote:
> same here. remember trying to request archives?
> --
> Dan Horning
>
> American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination.
> dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com
> 1-518-631-3611 :: PO Box 201, Cohoes, NY 12047
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Fri Oct 25 17:42:32 EDT 2013
> *To:* NYPHP Talk <talk at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net <http://php.net>?
>
> Okay, this is sad. I have been doing e-mail lists since before they had
> web interfaces...
>
> /me hangs his head in shame
>
>
> On 10/25/2013 05:17 PM, Robert Stoll wrote:
>
>     Heya,
>
>     Maybe it helps if you first unsubscribe from the list by sending an
>     email
>     to:
>     <internals-unsubscribe at lists.php.net>
>
>     And then subscribe again:
>     <internals-help at lists.php.net>
>
>     Cheers,
>     Robert
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org
>         [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
>         On Behalf Of Leam Hall
>         Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:08 PM
>         To: NYPHP Talk
>         Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net <http://php.net>?
>
>         On 10/25/2013 09:58 AM, Daniel Convissor wrote:
>
>             Hi Leam:
>
>                 Anyone know anyone who deals with the mailing lists on
>                 php.net <http://php.net>? Even
>                 before the recent ruckus, I was unable to sign on to the
>                 mailing
>                 lists.
>
>
>             What happens?
>
>             It's always worked fine for me:
>             1) Go to http://us1.php.net/mailing-lists.php
>             2) Click the radio button next to the list you want to
>             subscribe to
>             3) Enter your email address at the bottom
>             4) Click the subscribe button
>             5) Reply to the confirmation email. Maybe this is where
>             you're having
>             problems. Maybe these emails are getting snagged as spam.
>
>             That's all there is to it.
>
>             --Dan
>
>
>
>
>         Hey Dan!
>
>         I check my Gmail spam filter pretty often and the confirmation
>         e-mails
>         haven't shown up. They aren't even in the trash. I had tried to
>         sign up
>
>     before
>
>         php.net <http://php.net> got black-listed, to no avail.
>
>         Happy Friday!
>
>         Leam
>
>         --
>         http://31challenge.net
>         http://31challenge.net/insight
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
>         http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
>         http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
>     http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
>     http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
>
> http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
>

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From leamhall at gmail.com  Fri Oct 25 19:01:24 2013
From: leamhall at gmail.com (Leam Hall)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:24 -0400
Subject: [nycphp-talk] Mailing lists at php.net?
In-Reply-To: <d063f3fa-bd8e-4f29-90e3-02b9987dc73f@email.android.com>
References: <526A486A.3090905@gmail.com>
	<20131025135855.GA30148@analysisandsolutions.com>
	<526ADDA2.1060006@gmail.com>
	<000001ced1c7$979207b0$c6b61710$@tutteli.ch>
	<526AE5C8.2080607@gmail.com>
	<d063f3fa-bd8e-4f29-90e3-02b9987dc73f@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <526AF844.4090603@gmail.com>

And, with some finagleing, I have list subscriptions. Not sure what's up 
with the web page though. I was not subscribed to any of the lists I 
just got on.

Leam

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