NYCPHP Meetup

[Peter Sawczynec]

I believe that every person/entity that could put
academic/professional/commercial/author weight behind the formalization
of this idea is on this list. Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Ben Sgro
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:02 AM
To: NYPHP Talk
Subject: Re: [nycphp-talk] About Formalizing an Enterprise PHP and the
PHP+Developer

Hello Peter/et all,

I agree with a lot of this. I've been thinking about the same thing 
since the "OT Webmaster Test" thread started.

Some kind of move like this would surely help increase the quality of 
software and allow those
new to a project to become productive more quickly.

This is basically what we are doing at my current place of employment.

We've agreed on the Zend Framework, the zend modules and coding style 
(albeit somewhat improved), along with the
the PEAR/PECL repositories.

We also hold brief meetings before making extensions to the Zend 
framework, and general problem solving sessions
are encouraged.

Where else can we go with this, both my company and PHP community in 
general to make it more
of a "respected and enforced" *standard*?


- Ben

Peter Sawczynec wrote:
> It seems we (I mean PHP programmers) have all the tools and
instruments
> already at our fingertips for more formalizing the study and
application
> of PHP, we'd just have to agree to ring our wagons around what we've
got
> on hand.
>
> For example:
>
> a) we have the very large and well-recognized repository of PHP work
for
> reference and re-use at Sourceforge.net and PEAR, 
> b) we have the very well used and respected Php.net as large-scale
> reference hub,  
> c) we have Zend offering a commercialized IDE/framework and other
> enterprise updates to PHP 
> d) we have a handful of large free PHP user groups and these groups,
say
> the top 10, should be formally recognized, and one should be expected
to
> belong to one of these groups.
>
> So what would be wrong if we just agreed as a professional group to
use
> these above entities as our bedrock standards. We use the Zend cert,
the
> Zend IDE/framework and officially sanction Php.net and
> Sourceforge.net/PEAR as the defacto outlets of help/reference and
code. 
>
> We would not deny the use of, learning of, or the amicable
co-existence
> of any and all other outlets/entities, but the above noted entities
> would be the generalized initial standards.
>
> So as a new programmer in books/classes/tutorials you are always
pointed
> to Php.net for reference, you are behooved to use from and contribute
to
> Sourceforge.net/PEAR, you are prompted/guided/expected to join a
listed
> user group, and you are advised to get Zend cert and learn that
> IDE/framework. 
>
> And that a programmer who has Zend cert. and is a recognized user
group
> member can use the status of PHP+ user/programmer on their
> credentials/resume.
>
> Just a thought. Now that could be a start.
>
> Warmest regards, 
>  
> Peter Sawczynec 
> Technology Dir.
> Sun-code Interactive
> Sun-code.com 
> 646.316.3678 
> ps at sun-code.com
>
>
>
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