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[Jeff Knight]

I was able to use 3.5 and evaluate 4 on my machine simultaneously. 
The installer created a /config_4.0 folder next to my /config_3.5
folder and didn't override any of the original 3.5 application files
(putting all the 4.0 versions is a subfolder), Of course, I don't use
windows, but I don't see why they wouldn't keep those sorts of
features the same.

On the other hand, after my 30 days were up, I ended up going back to
3.5, seeing 4.0 as too little improvement for too much money.



On 5/9/05, Thomas O'Neill <tommyo at gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>  
>  Contact Zend sales tell them your situation and i bet you they will give
> you a free upgrade. They gave me one.
> 
> 
> On 5/9/05, inforequest < 1j0lkq002 at sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks in advance for any experience-based comments or suggestions. 
> > 
> > I bought Zend Studio Pro at version 3, and never really used it. I
> > encountered some annoyances on install (like what seemed to be a hang
> > during install, which turned out to be a hidden console window awaiting 
> > a key press to continue) and difficulty getting the debugger to work
> > properly with the server (turned out to be problems with the GUI
> > labeling... we worked our way to success eventually). In the end the
> > client/server aspects from the Windows client to a Linux server were a 
> > hassle. In my experience it was too slow, and not reliable for
> > interactive debugging. I never got it to work smoothly from the notebook
> > on and off the network. Because of the struggle I never fully adopted
> > the client so I admit I didn't give the IDE a good chance to impress me. 
> > I still have the license for Safeguard (at v3.5) Performance Suite 3.6
> > and Studio Pro 3.0 and Encoder 3.5 Plus, according to my Zend account.
> > 
> > Now with PHP 5 pretty widely available to me and all the progress I have 
> > seen from Zend I want to try again. Sadly, it seems everything I had
> > before (still available for use) is not upgradeable to the current
> > versions. I hardly see the point in buying it again, especially now that
> > it costs even more.
> > 
> > So then there's the trial downloads. Available to try the product --
> > seems a good idea, right?
> > 
> > Experienced as I am (whatever that is), I fully expect that a trial of a
> > 4.x generation product, installed on my Windows machine, perhaps with 
> > their Windows enhancer (whatever that is), will muck up my system if I
> > decide to use the 3.x product afterwards. You know, blind forward
> > compatibility issues and all. Anybody using the 4 or have any hands-on
> > experience that would help me out?
> > 
> > I know about the so-called "small business development" plan. Even if I
> > qualified for it (gross revenue of $250k/year is hardly a reasonable
> > limit for an east coast small business, even during "development") the 
> > same situation applies. Basically Zend is asking for between $1k and $5k
> > *per year* for their product which is not insignificant for an IDE with
> > debugger and encoder.
> > 
> > I was a user of NuSphere's PHP-IDE for a while prior to trying Zend 3, 
> > but I have never found enough bonus to the specialized IDE over UlraEdit
> > or Textpad-configured. The debugger is the draw, so if it works well
> > enough for me to be productive with it I want to use it.
> > 
> > Anybody care to tell me they *know* the trial versions will be a good 
> > experience? Or that I should rock on with my 3.x licenses? Or to save my
> > time and continue the edit-post-refresh routine and accept that there
> > really isn't a decent interactive debugger for the independent web
> > developer?
> > 
> > One thinks about PHP certification, which leads to Zend, which suggests
> > the IDE (again), which teases with promises of a real debugger and
> > server-side toolkit.... is it time to try again?
> > 
> > Thanks again. 
> > 
> > -=john andrews
> > 
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> Tom O'Neill
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