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[Chris French]

I agree with Matt, Years ago I found the tempting frameworks very useful but as i started to develop my own templates I found them very frustrating  to develop custom code into. 

I now always just use joomla native templating 

Chris


On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Matt Thomas wrote:

> One aspect worth noting, regarding frameworks, is that many of them were originally created to make it easier for user's to modify and customize the template through an administrative interface. One side effect of that a few of them had to create their own unique solutions to accomplish this, which resulted in a more complicated code base.
> 
> Some users that need to modify custom templates, might find it easier to avoid frameworks like this and build a template from the ground up. Other frameworks are more easily modified on the code level. 
> 
> It's sort of the yen yang of code complexity versus user experience.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Matt Thomas
> Founder betweenbrain™
> Lead Developer Construct Template Development Framework
> Phone: 203.632.9322
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> 
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Janet,
> 
> Thank you for the advice. I'll give it a try. 
> 
> - - - Steve
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Janet Sullivan <jmsullivan50 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Stephen:
> 
> I'm using a "son of yoothemes" template,  that also uses the Warp framework. In order for the "styles" folder to work,
> you need to duplicate the "empty-style" folder in the framework, rename it to something - (like my_custom_styles) then 
> ftp my-custom-styles to the Styles folder within the template folder, and it seems to work.  
> 
>  
> Janet Sullivan
> 
> From: Stephen Britton <sbritton at gmail.com>
> To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [joomla] How hard can it be to make an override?
> 
> I agree the new YooTheme templates undergone major changes. The 2.5 versions are far more code heavy than 1.5. The Warp framework has added another layer to figure out. 
> 
> I am pulling my hair out trying to make a custom background work in Symphony. YooTheme says you can create a "styles" folder and override the CSS, but it doesn't work. 
> 
> As for the regular HTML overrides, like com_content and com_contact, I have noticed no or very little difference between the two. It is not a problem.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Are you speaking of template overrides?  If so, which template are you using?  I noticed on the Yootheme templates the template overrides were not where I was expecting them to be.  This was a function of their warp system, not Joomla.
> 
> 
> From: Helvécio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:22 PM
> Subject: [joomla] How hard can it be to make an override?
> 
> I just started a project where I needed to do some overrides.
> 
> I've been doing this for years, as it was extremaly easy find the piece of HTML code I wanted to change, then do it, while keeping functions around. 
> 
> Now, with 2.5 it seems things have changed drastically. I cannot find the HTML as easy as I used to. Thus, it is impossible to change things to look like I want to. If this is true, Joomla won't be a flexible CMS as it was before because non-programmers WON'T know what and where to change.
> 
> As I am NOT a programmer, I'm having a hard time with this issue, that I never had before.
> 
> Geez...
> 
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